Erik Schuh talks with Dr. Oriana Skylar Mastro about how China became a great power, discussing her recent book on the topic. They dive into China's rise compared to historical global powers and where the U.S.-China relationship stands today.

Dr. Mastro is a Center Fellow at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies and Courtesy Assistant Professor of Political Science at Stanford University.

Dr. Mastro's Book: Upstart: How China Became a Great Power

Follow Dr. Mastro: https://x.com/osmastro

This episode was researched and hosted by Erik Schuh; it was edited by Emma Ding.