In this episode of the Peaceful Prisons Podcast, Baylen and Abbe engage with Lucas Alan Dietsche, an educator focused on prison education and transformative justice. They discuss the importance of education for incarcerated individuals, the stigma surrounding them, and how media perceptions shape public understanding of prisons. Lucas shares his experiences teaching sociology and poetry in prisons, emphasizing the dedication of his students and the need for second chances. The conversation highlights the transformative power of education and the necessity of curiosity and research in combating stigma.

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