"Do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life” is lovely advice — and almost entirely useless. This episode flips it: instead of waiting to discover your passion, what if you brought more of yourself to what you’re already doing? We talk about two street sweepers doing the exact same job with completely opposite energy, and about how people across all kinds of work — even the most ordinary and repetitive — see something transcendent in what they do, and love it all the more for it. It all points to a new way of approaching things — one where purpose isn’t something you find but something you bring.

Meet Louisa & Emily—two creatives, long-standing friends, and seekers of meaning in the everyday. For over two decades,

Louisa has redefined what interior design can be through her pioneering studio, House of Grey. A vision ...