Karina is an independent director of the Italian multinational energy company, Eni. She also chairs the Governing Board of the Climate Governance Initiative and is a Governor of the CFA Institute where she chairs the ESG Working Group of the Investment Sub-Committee and serves on the Governance Committee. She is best known as a corporate governance expert but not many corporate governance experts become an independent director of a major multinational energy company. She's a climate activist but not many climate activists serve on the board of an oil and gas company and succeed in changing its culture. On this episode of Outside In she talks with Jon Lukomnik about these achievements, having her freedom threatened by a corrupt prosecutor, spending her intellectual focus on the existential crisis of climate risk and giving emotional support to ref ...