Catch up with Katherine Deves who amongst other things is a former Liberal Party candidate for the Australian Federal seat of Warringah, media commentator, and a lawyer in the high-profile Tickle v Giggle litigation.

Today we discuss:

• How last week's hearing in the Federal Court went in Tickle v Giggle and where to from here
• What is driving the "teal" phenomenon in inner city seats in Australia and the psychology behind why it appeals to professional women
• The potential weaknesses of the teal movement and ways they could potentially be dislodged
• The issues for the future of the right in Australia, what changes are and are not required and Katherine's plans for the future.

And much more