We interview Mark Krikorian, the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) www.cis.org and a nationally recognised and influential expert on immigration issues in the United States

Among other things we discuss:

• What exactly is going on in Springfield, Ohio and why it matters more than whether cats and dogs are being eaten
• What problems the US has with illegal immigration that Australia has been able to avoid
• Why US centre-right has until recently talked very differently about immigration than in Australia
• Why legal immigration is the problem as well as illegal immigration
• Where we go from here.