17 Years. 16 Bombs, 3 dead, $50 million dollars and 150 full time investigators, and at the end of it a 53 year old man in a 10x12 foot cabin with no electricity and a lot of books.

everybody knows the outline. what most people know beyond it is a story about Harvard, a Psychologist, and the CIA. that story is about to get a Netflix film. so this week we went and did a deep dive...

what we found is that the experiment was real, it was genuinely unethical, and the claim that it created the Unabomber is contested by nearly everyone who would know. including a man who sat in the same study. including Henry Murray's biographer, who spent 20 on him. including Ted Kaczynski, who had every reason in the world to take the excuse and turned it down.

and underneath all of it there is a much quieter story about a boy who was ordinary until ...