Host Chris Davies is joined by Elise Knopf. Born deaf, Elise learned ASL when she attended Gallaudet University, where she graduated with a Masters in Rehabilitation Counseling. Elise joins our podcast now as the Rehabilitation Area Manager for the Deaf/HOH Division of Vocational Rehabilitation Services, which is under the State of Minnesota's Department of Employment and Economic Development (DEED). Chris Marble provides ASL interpretation for the conversation.