In this conversation, Ed and Eddie share humorous anecdotes about language barriers, particularly in Spanish, and delve into their experiences with counter custody training.

They discuss the dynamics of employee training, the creativity involved in making tools for liberation, and the importance of realistic training scenarios. The conversation takes a turn as they recount a harrowing car accident, the medical aftermath, and the lessons learned from the experience. They also reflect on cultural insights related to public altars and share exciting future plans for opening a storefront and hosting events.

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