00:00 The Adversarial Podcast

00:58 Hugging Face’s AI-driven incident disclosure

03:48 What makes an attack “AI-enabled”

06:04 Exploits, vulnerabilities, and bespoke code execution paths

10:03 AI attackers vs. AI defenders

11:19 Verification asymmetry: attackers vs. defenders

13:03 Detective controls, red teaming, and breach simulation

16:41 Why AI defenders matter

26:25 Gold Eagle / national coordination of vulnerability discovery

28:25 The real bottleneck is remediation, not discovery

37:04 CMMC and the cost of certification

42:15 Is certification effective, or just paperwork?

48:09 Threat-based validation as a better model

51:36 Closing thoughts: the security arms race

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