I talk with Helene Hipp, educator, grief and loss counsellor and supporter of women in midlife and beyond. We delve into the complex world of loss in all its myriad forms and see how it is intertwined with laughter and happiness. Helene is a straight-talking woman who I am proud to call a friend. Connect with the wonderful Helene at https://www.lifesnextchapter.com.au/contact-helene