Krav Maga Worldwide OG Kevin Lewis joins host Joel Ellenbecker for a deep, wide-ranging conversation—from Kevin’s first exposure to Krav Maga in the Navy (on a beach with Finnish commandos), to the early days of training at the National Training Center alongside legendary instructors, to refining teaching through Kaizen and principle-based decision making.

They unpack what gets lost online when “Krav Maga” becomes a label instead of a standard: the importance of simultaneous counterattack, taking back initiative, and training for perception–decision–reaction under stress—not just collecting techniques. Kevin also shares what it was like to work closely with Darren and Marni Levine, the responsibility instructors carry now, and why environment dictates tactics (especially when weapons and multiple attackers are real variables).