Hey Pastor!

Many pastors secretly wonder: “Is it me?”

When growth stalls, we often assume it’s preaching quality, relevance, or programming.

But what if the real issue isn’t your sermon?

In this episode, Kevin unpacks why church growth almost always stalls because of structure — not speaking ability.

You’ll learn:

• Why preaching inspires but systems integrate
• The hidden leak in most churches
• Why your church grows at the speed of its assimilation system
• How to measure movement, not just attendance

Connect with Kevin: coaching@kevinelworth.live and at pastorsthriving.com