Brian Jones welcomes Brian Viglione and Veronica Swift of DAME to Inside the Creative Mind for a conversation that officially earns the podcast its very first Explicit rating. And with a song called “Fucking Mess,” it really could not have happened any other way.

Brian and Veronica take us inside the world of DAME, from the unlikely creative connection that first brought them together to building a band that blends rock, jazz, musical theater, classical music, folk, blues, and cabaret into something entirely its own.

They discuss the mythology behind DAME, the creative process that allows their songs to move from intimate moments to explosive rock, and the themes of identity, resistance, and individuality running through songs like “Wrong Place, Wrong Time,” “Get Tough,” and “Fucking Mess.”

Veronica opens up about stepping beyon ...