In this episode, Carlos and Cecilio discuss one of the most important relationships in Lucumí/Ocha: the relationship between godparent and godchild.

They reflect on their own experiences with godparents, elders, yubonas, and religious community — from nurturing guidance and lifelong mentorship to discipline, accountability, and learning through observation. The conversation explores what a godparent should provide, what a godchild should be looking for, and why this relationship should never be rushed.

Together, they unpack how the role of godparents has changed over time, the importance of asking questions, the responsibility of correcting with care, and why spiritual relationships require patience, trust, respect, and good character.

This episode is for anyone asking: What should I expect from a godparent? How do I find one? W ...