This episode is being re-released during a moment of deep hurt, anger, and reflection for many in our nation.

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Recent events and public discourse have resurfaced painful reminders of how dehumanization and racism continue to show up in our society. For many—especially within the Black community—these moments are not abstract. They are personal, historical, and heavy.

In this timely conversation, I sit down with Loki Mulholland, filmmaker, activist, and son of legendary civil rights worker Joan Trumpauer Mulholland.

Rather than reacting with outrage alone, this episode invites us to pause and ask deeper ...