In Episode 124, we sit down with Phil Robertson to explore the journey behind building Phil & Sebastian and nearly two decades spent pushing the boundaries of specialty coffee.

Phil shares how his engineering mindset shaped his approach to quality, why he refuses to accept industry assumptions at face value, and what years of experimentation taught him about focus and long-term thinking. We also dive into customer empathy, developing great people, navigating the realities of retail, and the partnership principles that have allowed him and Sebastian to build together for decades.

This episode is a deep look at what happens when curiosity, patience, and an obsession with getting better become the foundation of a business.

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