It is easy to mistake a high level of stress, workload, and time that we pour into working as a measure of success. No pain, No Gain. However, in this episode, Mike shares a different perspective. What if the way you lead and the success of those around you is the true measure of your success as a leader? The more you grow as a leader, often, the less you will produce. There are times of long hours and stress, but your value and success are not measured by those things.