Why should not only lawyers be concerned with the "rule of law"? What we can do to ensure a fair and just legal system that serves our democratic values?Michelle Behnke discusses her journey from catholic school in Madison, Wisc. to the heights of the legal profession as president of the American Bar Association, the nation's oldest and largest organization of lawyers, working to combat threats to judicial independence and further access to justice. We learn this journey includes tenacity, vision and a great walk up song, Bruno Mars’ Uptown Funk.

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