In this episode, we are joined by Jovita Tam, dual-qualified attorney (England & Wales and New York), Data and AI advisor, board advisor, and one of the most distinctive voices at the intersection of governance, transformation, and responsible AI. Jovita's career spans engineering, law, investment banking, and strategic advisory. A rare combination that gives her an unusually clear view of where organisations deceive themselves, and why. Her thinking does not sit comfortably inside a single discipline, and neither does this conversation. Together, we examine the blind spots that governance frameworks quietly create, the difference between transformation as a project and transformation as a condition of organisational life, and why AND-thinking — holding two realities at once — may be the most underrated leadership capability of our time.  ...