This week, we’re joined by Trish Sale for a conversation about something many people resist and almost everyone needs: stepping away.Trish reflects on her sabbatical, what time away can reveal about leadership, trust, and identity, and why great teams often grow when someone steps back. We also talk about a memorable summer trip where she expected adventure and found something even better: human connection.Thoughtful, warm, and full of wisdom, this episode is a reminder that sometimes the best way forward starts by stepping away.