Charles is the cofounder of G&B Coffee and Go Get Em Tiger cafes in Los Angeles and the 2015 US Barista Champion. In this chat we talk about pandemic home espresso, the joys of darker roasts, reverence for the 2nd wave, data collection, automation, tofu making, reasonable consumption praxis, and more.

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