Episode 134: Stephen Rodes Chen - More Important Than Money
Stephen Rodes Chen is a songwriter and saxophonist based in New York City. Instagram and all episodes (00:00) Moving to New York (01:54) Discovering the saxophone (06:52) Music and identity (08:57) Choosing Yale over conservatory (11:06) The strange history of the saxophone (15:28) Creating musical opportunities at Yale (18:59) Graduating into the financial crisis (20:50) Committing to music (23:02) Building Great Caesar in New York (26:02) WeWork and the hippie capitalist scene (29:00) Joining San Fermin (30:59) Leaving Great Caesar behind (32:02) Making money between tours (32:56) How necessity fuels ambition (36:30) Second-guessing the artistic path (39:05) The value of an interesting life (43:31) Becoming a professional touring musician (46:34) Covid stops everything (48:02) Building a virtual choir business (52:19) Does a musician still need New York? (59:12) Seeking music that challenges you (65:42) Redefining success