We sit down with Tami Pyfer — Chief Impact Officer for UNITE, co-creator of the Dignity Index, former Utah Governor's education policy advisor, and one of USA Today's 2025 Women of the Year representing Utah.

Tami walks us through the Dignity Index, an 8-point scale that measures the language we use in conflict — from contempt at the bottom to dignity at the top. We explore how this tool helps individuals, families, and communities move from division toward understanding.

In this conversation, we get into what the Dignity Index is and how it works, the difference between contempt and dignity, how to attack the problem and not the person, practical phrases you can use to de-escalate conflict, how your own choices online either fuel or fight division, and how to hold people accountable while still treating them with dignity.

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