Four years ago, then-President Trump arrived at the first debate with Joe Biden in Cleveland seemingly determined to steamroll Biden at every turn. The debate turned into chaos. The second and final presidential debate of 2020, held in Nashville, Tennessee, was far more subdued. On Thursday night, President Biden and Trump will debate once again in Atlanta. How important will the debate be following in swaying independent voters after Trump was convicted of a felony? David McLennan, Meredith College political science professor, joined Jeff Hamlin on the WPTF Afternoon News to discuss the debate.