An Unexpected Man to Lead Men - The John Degner Story

John, a man led to lead men, and I covered a lot a ground as we discuss his story. It was during the loss of a marriage and business that John found his deep relationship with God.

John talks about how surrendering to God created great growth in his life.

He shares what it is like to be used by God, to hear God's words come out of your mouth and be exactly what that other person needs to hear and realizing these words could not come from you.

This is just scratching the surface of our conversation. If you want to know what it is like to have a deeply personal, intimate and interactive relationship with a living God, Listen to this podcast.