In Episode 2 of Who Cares?!, we sit down with a man whose life has been shaped by the criminal legal system—and transformed through resilience, service, and truth.

Growing up in Los Angeles during the 1980s, our guest was pulled into gang life at a young age, leading to his first incarceration as a teenager. What followed were decades of system involvement: prisons, fire camps, probation, parole, and repeated attempts to rebuild a life while carrying the weight of a record.

While incarcerated, he became certified as a wildland firefighter, spending years on fire crews actively protecting communities while still under state supervision. Fire camp became both a lifeline and a contradiction—offering purpose, discipline, and public service, yet limited freedom once the fires were out.

His journey was not wi ...