BAD PEOPLE PODCAST // S2 EP 3 : GOOD SOUL

What is the difference between a Pastor and a Spiritual Director? What could it look like to engage with our spirituality outside of a church system and all the politics that come with it? How do we cultivate a nourishing spiritual community, or companionship, when we may have been harmed by a previous religious community?

This week on the podcast, Christa and Micah chat with Samuel Fagan, a spiritual director, husband, father, and ex-pastor from Sydney, Australia.

In this conversation, we reflect on the following:

Sam’s upbringing and family dynamic

His years as a pastor at Hillsong Church

How both Micah and Sam felt when their Senior pastor suddenly resigned

How Sam found his way into Spiritual Directing

Navigating church trauma and ...