As 2020 comes to an end, Peter, Margo and Tim sit down with award-winning journalist, biographer, educator, and public intellectual, Margaret Simons. Simons is not only a key thinker in the area of media, she is one of the few mainstream journalists who have truly confronted the changes to media wrought by digitisation. In this wide-ranging discussion, she discusses the year that was and the role the media played, particularly in Victoria, in framing the debates around Covid-19. She talks about the relationship between the media and their audience, particularly as that relationship is manifested on Twitter, and she gives some thought to where we go from here. Hers is a compelling voice and we think you will enjoy this extended, end-of-year discussion with her.