Today we sit down with Frank Mong COO at helium to unpack how DePIN can disrupt telecom from community-built coverage to the reality of a free mobile plan (and what it takes to make it work).

0:00 Intro

1:11 Welcome + guest intro (Frank Mong, Helium)

2:03 What is Helium? (simple overview)

6:22 How Helium disrupts telecom (cost + competition)

7:26 Can a phone plan be free? (the thesis)

9:10 Helium Mobile plans (Free / $15 / $30)

12:41 From crypto-first users to mainstream incentives

19:46 How people join the network (hotspots + examples)

26:09 Expansion: Mexico, Brazil + more regions

35:54 Why Solana

40:10 Security & fraud lessons

46:20 AI + network quality verification

56:32 What’s next in 2026

58:33 Outro / where to find Heli ...