In this episode, Michelle and Nicola record from Michelle's kitchen (their studio days are behind them — for now), amid the chaos of early mornings, a daughter heading off on holiday, and a husband conducting what may or may not have been a performance review with the washing machine.

What we talk about:

Living on autopilot Do you still structure your life around school holidays even though you don't have to? We explore how deeply ingrained habits — ones formed when the kids were small — continue to quietly run our lives long after they're relevant. From avoiding August like the plague to treating September as a fresh start, we're all living by a bell we can't even hear anymore.

The summer holiday myth If your target market isn't teachers or parents of school-age kids, why are y ...