Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.

In this first episode we sit down to actually talk about why, what it triggers, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.

We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.

The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Radical Heart Therapy and Coaching LLC.

Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

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