What does a university class on sustainability look like and who is sitting in it?

In this episode, Thomas Jørgensen visits a 17th-century palace in Kraków, now home to the Jagiellonian University. Here, he finds two lawyers reinventing how a university teaches sustainability across borders.

Lena Helińska, chose law because reality is complex and law is always about reality. Piotr Szwedo spent years teaching international water law, until he realised that behind every legal norm there is a human problem that no legal text alone can solve. Today they are co-building BASUS – the Una Europa alliance’s Joint Bachelor’s in Sustainability across 11 European universities.

A conversation about emotions, bold choices and ideas that stop you mid-sentence: what if feeling it comes before fixing it?

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