What if personal growth isn’t only about what we need to learn, but what we need to unlearn? David and Lauren welcome psychotherapist Jay Murrell for a conversation about the beliefs and coping strategies that may once have protected us but now keep us stuck. From our need for control and certainty to fears about letting go, asking for help, setting boundaries, feeling deeply and facing what we avoid, they explore how unlearning old patterns can open the door to resilience, healing, authenticity and lasting change.

Original Airdate: 8/18/2026