In this very special episode of Sounds Like a Plan, the SLAP celebrates the 80th birthday of UNC's Department of City and Regional Planning. Our team dives into the department's history alongside two men who played major roles in shaping it: former chair Dr. Michael Stegman and author of Urban Land Use Planning, 5th edition, Dr. Philip Berke. Enjoy listening as our department's present converses with our department's past and maybe even our department's future.