Steven Godfrey's feeling a soccer-filled future for U.S. sports fans, but he wants to talk about that path with Ryan Nanni first. (Somehow, this leads to a brief discussion of famous NYU graduates.) What are the indicators that would show this World Cup impacted the American audience long-term? What can we observe from the PWHL and NHL after the Winter Games? And are Godfrey and Ryan even the viewers any of these leagues should care about?

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