The clips of Jillian Michaels going head-to-head with body positivity advocates has been all over social media, and Sara and Caleigh finally sat down to watch the whole thing. The setup: a moderator reads a claim, and whoever gets to the hot seat first gets to argue it with Jillian face to face. First claim up: obesity is not healthy, and pretending it is puts lives at risk.

One woman used her turn to object to the word "obese" before ever addressing whether it was true. Another argued that exercise hurt her and dieting didn't make sense to her, without ever explaining how any of that made carrying excess body fat healthy. Jillian didn't blink: fat doesn't just sit on the outside, it wraps around your organs and works against you from the inside too.

The real conversation isn't about semantics ...