Shame does not just tell you that you did something wrong. Shame tells you you are wrong. It tells you God is tired of the same prayer, the same weakness, the same relapse, the same need, the same mess. It makes you imagine God with folded arms, disappointed eyes, and disgust in His voice. And when you already feel dirty, broken, exposed, or too far gone, shame can start sounding more believable than God.

In this raw episode, Deb and Scott talk honestly about the lies shame tells, the way we project human disappointment onto God, and the healing truth that God is not disgusted by our weakness. From addiction and public shame to the woman taken in adultery, the prodigal son, and Peter’s denial, this conversation is for anyone who has wondered, “Is God done with me?” Shame says hide. God says come. And no matter how messy the mess is ...