Happy MONDAY!!!!! Come hang out with us and our first and very, very special and talented guest and artist Daniela Shapiro (cds.art on the socials) as we chat about topics ranging from the ethics of zoos to coocoo coworkers. You are in for a special treat today because you get to hear Daniela's stories, words of wisdom, and life philosophies.

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