Kathryn makes a distinction between true Christians and those that aren't "Truly Born Again".

This talk should be paired up with Episode 151. And you are in luck. Last night I uploaded a better version of Episode 151 which includes an additional 5 minutes at the end. You can find that companion episode here on YouTube https://youtu.be/fB9kilWRQxA?feature=sharedor here on spotify https://open.spotify.com/episode/42zqAUfgzk0qNAMQfcmPfm?si=iBMcETHTTEundQB62y2fWwor here on Apple podcasts  ...