In this short Integrate This! conversation from ISTE, Jeremy Mikla catches up with returning guest Carl Hooker—author, speaker, podcaster, former bar owner, and self-proclaimed “Conference Crawler Carl.”

Carl shares what keeps bringing him back to ISTE, why the best learning often happens in hallway conversations, and how first-time attendees can make the most of a large conference without feeling overwhelmed. From planning a flexible schedule to exploring the edges of the expo hall for hidden gems, Carl offers practical advice for educators looking to connect, reflect, and bring new ideas back to their schools.

The conversation also dives into Carl’s current work around AI, creativity, design thinking, and the human side of technology. Rather than focusing only on tools, Carl highlights the importance of helping students compare, ...