In this episode I talk to veteran games designer Ben Fisher. Topics of conversation including some of the practicalities of games design, gamification of non-game experiences, games as art, and… what is fun anyway? Ben has a wealth of experience of the games industry having worked at multiple studios across many AAA titles and has some really fascinating insights into this corner of the creative industry.

We mentioned a lot of different games, but here's links to some that I think are particularly interesting.

Return of the Obra Dinn - obradinn.com

Journey - thatgamecompany.com/journey

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