Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving

Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving

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Why Meaning Matters in Medicine with Dr. Jonathan Ripp | Flourishing In Medicine Podcast #40
Today, we are joined by Dr. Jonathan Ripp, a nationally recognized leader in physician well-being, serving as Senior Associate Dean for Well-Being and Resilience and Chief Wellness Officer at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. Dr. Jonathan Ripp is a professor, researcher, and clinician who has helped shape the national conversation on burnout and resilience through his leadership of initiatives such as CHARM, his work with the ACGME and National Academy of Medicine, and his pioneering research on physician distress and professional fulfillment. At Mount Sinai, he leads system-wide efforts to support the flourishing of students, trainees, and faculty. Dr. Ripp brings both deep clinical experience and organizational perspective to questions about what it takes for healthcare systems to cultivate cultures where clinicians feel supported, connected, and able to thrive. We also cover: The tension between medicine's ideals and the realities of modern healthcare systems, including burnout, moral distress, and the systemic roots of clinician suffering The importance of organizational culture, psychological safety, and supportive leadership in creating environments where clinicians can flourish Practical and hopeful developments, from coaching and peer support networks to AI tools that reduce clerical burden, while emphasizing that meaningful work, human connection, and purpose remain at the heart of sustainable healing professions Dr. Ripp concludes with a hopeful call to preserve purpose, community, and humanity in medicine while continuing to push for systemic change at the organizational and policy levels. Links: More on Dr. Ripp: https://profiles.mountsinai.org/jonathan-a-ripp Dr. Ripp’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-ripp-md-mph/ Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai: https://icahn.mssm.edu/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:00) Why Medicine (04:00) Mount Sinai and Family Values (05:30) Ideals vs. Reality (08:00) When Burnout Became Real (10:00) Advancing Idealism in Medicine (12:00) Evolution of Physician Well-Being (15:00) System vs. Individual Factors (17:00) Performative vs. Authentic Wellness (20:00) What Healthy Culture Looks Like (23:00) Moral Distress and Leadership (26:00) What Works: System and Individual Level (29:00) Technology and Reducing Burden (32:00) Coaching and Community (35:00) CHARM Initiative (38:00) Conversations We Need to Have (40:00) Sustaining Meaning and Hope (42:00) Role of Ordinary Clinicians (44:00) Conclusion
Beyond the Screen: Presence and Technology in Medicine with Dr. Alice Loveys | FIM Podcast #39
Today, we are joined by Dr. Alice Loveys, a pediatrician and nationally recognized clinical informatics expert working at the intersection of healthcare, technology, digital health, and equity. Dr. Alice Loveys, MD, FAAP, FHIMSS, ABP-CI, is a pediatrician and Chief Medical Information Officer at IT Practice Consulting Group. She has practiced pediatrics in the Rochester region since 1994 and was among the inaugural class of United States physician diplomates in Clinical Informatics. Drawing from decades of experience spanning clinical care, software design, blockchain strategy, HIPAA/privacy initiatives, and healthcare leadership, she has become a nationally recognized voice on the intersection of medicine, technology, and human connection. Known as "Dr. Gadget" for her work testing and implementing new healthcare technologies, Dr. Loveys brings both clinical wisdom and systems-thinking to questions about how digital transformation can either fragment or deepen the healing relationship between clinicians and patients. In the conversation, Dr. Loveys shares how a Life Magazine photograph of a baby in utero sparked her lifelong sense of awe and wonder in medicine, revealing how that sense of the miraculous continues to inform her approach to both patient care and technology implementation. We also cover: How electronic health records were built for billing rather than storytelling, and what gets lost when documentation systems prioritize transactions over relationships The promise and ethical tensions of AI in medicine, including questions of bias, transparency, patient empowerment, and the cultural shifts needed to support shared decision-making Why technology should be the "stone in stone soup" (the catalyst that brings people together) and how thoughtfully designed tools can reduce suffering when they preserve rather than replace human connection Dr. Loveys concludes by reminding us to never underestimate the laying on of hands, emphasizing that the guidance, empowerment, and authentic human encounter at the heart of healing must always come from or with a human being. Links: Dr. Ali Loveys LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-ali-loveys/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:50) Dr. Alice Loveys (04:00) Why Medicine (09:00) The Concrete and the Miraculous (11:00) Systems in the Digital Age (16:00) Electronic Health Records (20:00) Technology and Burnout (23:00) Humanity in Informatics (31:00) AI in Medicine (35:00) Patient Empowerment (38:00) Blind Spots in AI (42:00) Sustaining Oneself (44:00) The Laying On of Hands (46:00) Conclusion
Getting Unstuck in Medicine: Coaching, Leadership, and the Path to Flourishing with Dr. Ellen Singer | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #38
Today, we are joined by Dr. Ellen Singer, a board-certified internist and pediatrician. Dr. Ellen L. Singer is a dual board-certified internist and pediatrician with more than 30 years of experience in clinical practice, medical leadership, and physician development. She serves as a Physician Development Coach for Legacy Health, a regional Virtualist with Northwest Permanente, and Medical Director of The Foundation for Medical Excellence. Ellen brings deep expertise in recruitment, credentialing, quality oversight, documentation, revenue cycle, and practice redesign across multiple specialties. ICF-certified, she coaches clinicians and leaders through difficult patient interactions, burnout, privilege restrictions, and career transitions. Grounded in empathy, storytelling, and reflection Ellen is passionate about helping healthcare professionals build meaningful, resilient careers and sustainable, engaged clinical teams. In the conversation, Dr. Singer reflects on the formative influences that drew her to medicine and how her training at the University of Rochester shaped her lifelong attention to the inner lives of clinicians, ultimately leading her to develop a second professional identity as a physician coach. We also cover: How coaching differs from traditional medical problem-solving by creating space for reflection, clarity, and self-directed solutions rather than prescribing answers The structural challenges in modern healthcare including tensions around time, resources, organizational priorities, and the struggle for physician autonomy Practical approaches to transforming meetings, leadership dynamics, and team relationships to create more sustainable and humane clinical environments Dr. Singer concludes with a vision of flourishing grounded in meaningful relationships, sustainable self-care habits, and shared commitment to patient care that truly matters, emphasizing that change must come from individual clinicians and teams building flourishing from the ground up. Links: Dr. Ellen Singer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellensingermdcpcc/ The Foundation for Medical Excellence: https://tfme.org/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:50) Dr. Ellen Singer (03:00) Early Influences (07:00) Clinicians' Inner Lives (11:00) The Unexpected Evolution to Coaching (16:00) Why Traditional Medical Culture Needs Coaching (20:00) Physician Struggles (23:00) Moral Distress and Resource Constraints (27:00) Narratives of Concern (31:00) Transforming Meetings (35:00) Moments That Matter (39:00) How Coaching Changed Dr. Singer (41:00) What Flourishing Looks Like Today (44:00) Conclusion
Contemplation in Action: Rewiring Burnout from the Inside Out with Dr. Lia Antico | FIM Podcast #37
Today, we are joined by Dr. Lia Antico, a neuroscientist, educator, and contemplative scholar whose work explores the neural and behavioral mechanisms underlying burnout, empathy, and compassion in health professionals. Dr. Lia Antico is an Assistant Doctor at the Medical School of the University of Fribourg in Switzerland and an Adjunct Assistant Professor at the Brown University School of Public Health. Her research investigates the behavioral and neural mechanisms underlying various states of mind and body, focusing specifically on burnout and anxiety. She develops and tests interventions based on mindfulness aimed at preventing or alleviating burnout and fostering well-being and flourishing at work, especially among healthcare professionals. She is a strong advocate for Contemplation in Action, emphasizing the integration of mindfulness into daily life and relationships to build communities grounded in authenticity and trust. In the conversation, Dr. Antico shares how her early volunteer experiences in hospitals and her Christian contemplative tradition shaped her path into neuroscience and clinician wellbeing research. We also cover: The development of a brief app-based mindfulness intervention at Brown University that reduced burnout by 30% and anxiety by 40% in clinicians The neuroscientific distinction between empathy and compassion and why understanding this difference matters for sustainable caregiving Her vision for creating spaces in hospitals and universities where clinicians can pause, breathe, share experiences, and reconnect with meaning in their work Dr. Antico concludes by emphasizing the importance of building communities grounded in authenticity and trust. Links: Dr. Lia Antico LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lia-antico-phd-2082ab56/ Unwinding by Sharecare App: https://unwindingbysharecare.com/ Clinician Burnout Course (Free): https://drjud.com/clinician-burnout-course/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Empathy and Compassion (02:30) Introduction (04:00) Wellbeing and Wisdom (05:00) Early Fascination (06:00) Volunteer Experiences (08:00) Contemplative Practices (09:00) The Pediatric Unit (12:00) Neural Mechanisms of Burnout (15:00) Mindfulness Intervention at Brown (18:00) Research Findings (21:00) Empathy vs. Compassion (29:00) Current Opportunities (32:00) Contemplation in Action (34:00) Faith Informing Professional Life (38:00) Bridge Between Personal and Professional (41:00) Breathe and Share (44:00) Conclusion
Mindfulness, Self-Compassion, and the Future of Healthcare in Singapore with Dr. Virginia Lien | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #36
Today, we are joined by Dr. Virginia Lien, a physician, psychotherapist, and mindfulness teacher from Singapore who has been caring for others for four decades. Dr. Virginia Lien is a physician, psychotherapist and mindfulness teacher caring for others for four decades in Singapore. Since retiring from clinical medicine after a serious accident 12 years ago, she has recovered to start The Mindful Compassion Project in 2017. This is a not-for-profit partnership offering mindful compassion programs and retreats to promote well-being and flourishing among local professional caregivers in medicine and healthcare. Working with many gifted clinicians and medical educators locally and internationally, she is passionate about promoting Mindfulness and Compassion in Medicine to effect holistic changes both at the personal and the organizational leadership level. She believes that, together, we can bring healing back to healthcare, beginning by caring for ourselves and our dedicated colleagues. In the conversation, Dr. Lien shares how a traumatic burn injury transformed her understanding of both patient and caregiver experience, leading her to create circles of connection that ripple outward to influence healthcare culture in Singapore and beyond. We also cover: The rapid evolution of Singapore's healthcare system and the escalating pressures on students and clinicians Three key programs: Mindful Self-Care, Self-Compassion for Healthcare Communities, and Mindful Practice in Medicine How small circles of practitioners create ripple effects of kindness and humanity in healthcare systems Dr. Lien concludes by emphasizing the importance of bringing mindfulness and compassion to leadership levels, noting that compassionate leadership actually strengthens resilience and connection rather than creating weakness or inefficiency. Links: The Mindful Compassion Project: https://www.themindfulcompassionproject.com/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (05:28) Why Medicine (06:40) Childhood Illness (10:12) Healthcare Journey (11:30) Patient Experience (12:00) Discovering Mindfulness and Self-Compassion (13:58) Healthcare in Singapore (16:55) Pressures on Healthcare Professionals (19:15) The Mindful Compassion Project (22:24) Transformation During COVID (24:21) The Power of Connection (25:25) Scaling Programs in Singapore's Healthcare System (28:14) Community, Practice, and Regional Vision (30:00) Opportunities in China and Asia Pacific (32:22) Bringing Compassion to Leadership (34:24) Conclusion
Relational Leadership in Healthcare with Dr. Sarah Smithson and Jane Cooper-Driver | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #35
Today, we are joined by Dr. Sarah Smithson, MD, MPH, and Jane Cooper-Driver, co-founders and co-CEOs of Relational Leadership Partners. In the conversation, Dr. Smithson and Cooper-Driver explore relational leadership as a human-centered approach that cultivates connection, collaboration, and belonging while addressing how traditional hierarchical models in healthcare leave authenticity, innovation, and quality on the table. We also cover: How relational breakdowns contribute to burnout and why healthcare has become transactional rather than relationship-centered Practical, teachable relational practices that transform conflict into creativity and build psychological safety within teams Why these skills are not optional extras but foundational to patient care, team resilience, and organizational sustainability Dr. Smithson and Cooper-Driver conclude by envisioning a healthcare system where team members feel part of something greater, where resilience lives within the collective, and where both staff and patients experience genuine care and belonging. Links: Relational Leadership Partners: https://rlpconnect.com/ Dr. Sarah Smithson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-smithson/ Jane Cooper-Driver LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jane-cooper-driver-01000b6/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:00) Relational Leadership (03:00) Sarah's Origin Story (06:00) The Cadaver Lab Experience (08:00) Jane's Cross-Cultural Journey to Leadership (11:00) Defining Relational Leadership (14:00) Traditional vs. Relational Leadership Models (17:00) The All-Knowing Leader Myth (18:00) Common Relational Breakdowns in Healthcare (21:00) Conflict, Communication, and Trust (24:00) The New York Driving Analogy (25:00) Conflict Transformation vs. Resolution (27:00) Can Relational Skills Be Taught? (29:00) Intentionality in Practice (32:00) Integration vs. Compartmentalization (34:00) The Patient Experience Connection (36:00) Envisioning a Relationally Grounded Future (39:00) Love and Collective Resilience (41:00) Conclusion
Treating the Wounded Healer with Dr. Stefanie Simmons | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #34
Today, we are joined by Dr. Stefanie Simmons, emergency medicine physician, national leader in clinician wellbeing, and Chief Medical Officer of the Dr. Lorna Breen Heroes Foundation, for a conversation about service, systemic change, and reimagining healthcare workers as emotional and intellectual athletes. In this conversation, Stefanie reflects on her unexpected path into medicine. Originating from a family ethic of service and her father's repeated message: our duty is to use our talents to make the world a better place. She traces how her historian's eye for systems and change, combined with early experiences of misalignment between medicine's ideals and realities, led her to focus on the interpersonal, cultural, and systemic dimensions of healing. We also cover: The tragic story of Dr. Lorna Breen and the foundation's mission to dismantle structural barriers to mental healthcare for clinicians, including invasive licensing and credentialing questions about past mental health treatment How personal struggles with unaddressed mental health needs and stigma shaped her commitment to changing medical culture and treating healthcare workers with the same care they provide to patients The foundation's comprehensive work across research, education, collaboration with national organizations, and accelerating solutions through the impact badge program that recognizes institutions removing stigmatizing questions Her vision for the future: treating healthcare workers as emotional and intellectual athletes who deserve proper training, rest, coaching, and supportive systems designed to help them thrive rather than injure them Throughout, Dr. Simmons embodies moral clarity, vulnerability, and hope—grounded in systems thinking, dedicated to cultural transformation, and committed to a more humane medical profession. She closes with a powerful reframe: in order to reach a state where our healthcare workforce is healthy and thriving, we need to treat ourselves and each other as the intellectual and emotional athletes that we are. Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefsimmons/ Lorna Breen Heroes Foundation: https://drlornabreen.org/ EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (00:15) Welcome and Overview (01:21) Path into Medicine (03:19) Dr. Simmon’s Origin Story (04:00) Family Service Ethic (06:00) Her Father's Influence (07:45) Personal Evolution (23:10) Lorna Breen Heroes Foundation (24:30) Dr. Lorna Breen (25:00) Finding the Foundation (26:15) Future Vision (27:00) Physicians as Athletes (29:15) Designing for Wellbeing (29:50) Closing Reflections (30:00) Mindfulness Exercise (32:07) Conclusion
Belonging & Mindfulness Across Medicine with Dr. Ross Carne | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #33
Today, we are joined by Dr. Ross Carne. Dr. Ross Carne MBBS, FRACP, MD(Melbourne), MMEd (Dundee), FASLM, LMusA is a neurologist and clinical neurophysiologist who is American Board of Electrodiagnostic Medicine Certified and a Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) Certified Teacher through MTIA. He holds a Doctorate of Medicine investigating brain imaging in epilepsy and a Masters in Medical Education. He is currently an Affiliate Professor at School of Medicine, Deakin University, Geelong, Victoria, Australia. In this conversation, Ross reflects on the formative experiences that drew him into medicine and how these shaped his lifelong desire to relieve suffering and make complexity understandable to others. We also cover: How mindfulness transformed both his clinical practice and personal life, opening space for authenticity, deeper presence, and creative exploration His "Belonging in Medicine" program, which helps clinicians reconnect with intention, beauty, and collegial connections across individual, interpersonal, and organizational dimensions How contemplative practices like attentive listening, acknowledging emotional content, and sharing experiences with colleagues directly counter the components of burnout: depersonalization, emotional exhaustion, and professional inadequacy Throughout, Dr. Carne embodies a creative, curious spirit—open to possibilities, grounded in presence, and dedicated to helping clinicians discover and rediscover meaning, connection, and humanity in their work. He closes with a reminder from Rumi: "On a day when the wind is perfect, the sail just has to open and the world is full of beauty. Today is such a day." Links: Mindfulness Training Institute Australia New Zealand: https://www.mtia.org.au/search-results/teacher?id=51 EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (00:15) Dr. Carne’s path into medicine (01:00) Early experiences with illness and caregiving (02:25) The emotional impact of feeling powerless (04:10) How those moments shaped his calling (06:22) Living with seizures and personal vulnerability (07:45) Finding meaning in the healer’s role (09:12) Mindfulness and the “traveling intention” (10:27) The epiphany that shifted his practice (11:45) First encounter with mindfulness in medicine (12:15) Beginning formal mindfulness training (14:00) Integrating attention and compassion in care (16:30) The science behind awareness and suffering (18:10) The role of presence in clinical encounters (21:00) Belonging and connection in healthcare teams (24:40) What physicians need to thrive (29:34) Creativity, writing, and narrative work (31:48) Final reflections on wonder and curiosity (32:19) Closing thoughts from Dr. Carne (33:07) Guided mindfulness exercise (35:31) Conclusion
Building Resilient Clinicians Through Mindfulness with Dr. Jodi Jackson | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #32
Today, we are joined by Dr. Jodi Jackson, Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Neonatology at Children's Mercy-Kansas City/UMKC School of Medicine. Through a clinical partnership, Dr. Jodi Jackson has served as Medical Director of the NICU at AdventHealth Shawnee Mission (AHSM) since 2007. She was a founding member of the Physician Wellness program and Meaning in Medicine program with AHSM. From 2010 to present, she has been training in Mindful Practice, Quality of Care, Quality of Caring and Resilience, and is now certified to teach Mindfulness in Medicine through the Advanced Teacher Training Program for Mindful Practice in Medicine (MPIM), University of Rochester School of Medicine. She presently serves on faculty and the advisory board for the Mindful Practice in Medicine (MPIM) program, University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry. In this conversation, Dr. Jackson reflects on her unconventional path to medicine, driven not by a childhood dream of becoming a doctor, but by deep curiosity about how the body and world work, and a desire for grounded understanding amid family health anxieties. We also cover: How her journey to medicine was guided by genuine curiosity rather than a predetermined vision How the Mindfulness Scholars Program at UMKC fosters intergenerational learning, narrative sharing, psychological safety, and demonstrable improvements in wellbeing How combining the wisdom of mindfulness and Enneagram teachings creates powerful tools for self-discovery, noticing where we're stuck, and navigating human relationships with greater compassion Throughout, Dr. Jackson embodies the way of the teacher. She is open but not attached to outcomes, committed to walking the path, and dedicated to helping shape a more conscious, humane generation of health professionals. Links: Mindful Practice in Medicine (MPIM): https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/about/who-we-are/ UMKC Mindfulness Scholars Program: https://libguides.library.umkc.edu/c.php?g=1441182&p=10704649 EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:15) An unconventional path to medicine (04:00) Choosing Neonatology (07:00) The Impact of Mindful Practice (10:30) Building the Mindfulness Scholars Program (14:00) Training Students and Faculty Together (17:30) Culture Change in Medical Education (21:00) The Hidden Curriculum (24:00) Enneagram and Mindfulness (28:00) Understanding Patterns and Compassion (31:00) Tools for Healing and Growth (36:00) The Enneagram & Mindfulness (42:45) Guided Mindfulness Practice (45:00) Conclusion
Mindfulness in Swedish Medicine with Dr. Whitmer Jacobsson & Dr. Bååthe | Flourishing in Medicine: From Surviving to Thriving #31
Today, we are joined by Dr. Anamaria Whitmer Jacobsson, MD, a senior OB/GYN surgeon at Varberg and Kungsbacka Hospitals in Sweden, and Dr. Fredrik Bååthe, PhD, a senior researcher and lecturer at the Institute of Stress Medicine in Gothenburg and guest researcher at the Legeforskningsinstituttet in Oslo. In the conversation, Drs. Whitmer Jacobsson and Bååthe share their deeply personal “why,” exploring how formative experiences shaped their values of service, connection, and human potential. We also cover: Why traditional debriefing can backfire when teams are outside their window of tolerance and what to do instead How trauma-informed, appreciative questions help clinicians and patients heal, learn, and reconnect after crises What sustainable healthcare looks like in practice, with lessons from a Swedish clinic achieving low burnout and high fulfillment for over 20 years Links: Dr. Whitmer Jacobsson’s LinkedIn: se.linkedin.com/in/anamaria-whitmer-jacobsson-b69b966b Dr. Bååthe’s LinkedIn: /www.linkedin.com/in/fredrik-b%C3%A5%C3%A5th-10682a89/ Claritatis AB: https://claritatisab.com/new-page-1 A.L.S.O. Scandinavia: https://www.also-scandinavia.com/kurs-i-sverige/ SLF: https://slf.se/in-english/ SFOG: https://www.sfog.se/kunskap/psykosocial-ob-gyn-samt-sexologi-pos-arg/ ISM: https://tinyurl.com/5n7ce2d5 LEFO: https://tinyurl.com/3mv2nbzy EmPro Website: https://www.myempro.com/ EmPro Peer Support Program: https://www.myempro.com/peer-support/ Physician Support Line: +1(888) 409-0141 Physician Support Line Website: https://www.physiciansupportline.com/ Dr. Krasner's Website: https://mickkrasnermd.com/ Mindful Practice in Medicine Website: https://mindfulpracticeinmedicine.com/ Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:00) The Why: Service and Human Connection (10:00) From Industry to Healthcare: Unlocking Human Potential (20:00) Mindful Practice and the Birth of the Swedish Model (30:00) Complexity Science and Organizational Healing (37:00) Trauma-Informed, Appreciative Inquiry in Practice (43:00) Sustainable Healthcare in Sweden (47:00) Expanding to Michigan and Beyond (51:00) Vision for the Future of Care (55:00) Conclusion
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