What's the difference between teaching a "good kid" and developing a godly one?

In this episode of The Great Commission Toolkit, Chase Williams sits down with Max Barker from Camp CoBeAc to talk about children's ministry, camp ministry, and one of the most important lessons Max has learned through years of working with children:

Don't just focus on changing behavior. Reach the heart.

Max shares how children's ministry impacted his own life, how God led him into camp ministry, and what he wishes he had understood when he first began working with kids.

We discuss:

✅ How children's ministry can shape a person's life

✅ Max's journey into camp ministry

✅ What years of working with thousands of kids has taught him

✅ Why fun should always have intentionality

✅ The di ...