Most conversations about the future of work focus on technology. This one focuses on people.

In this episode, Ben sits down with Alexis Fink, organizational psychologist and president of SIOP — the Society for Industrial-Organizational Psychology — to explore what over a century of behavioral science actually tells us about how work gets done, why organizations succeed or fail, and what leaders get dangerously wrong about their own people.

Alexis brings a perspective that's rarely heard in economics conversations: one grounded not in incentives and market forces, but in how humans actually behave under pressure, in teams, and inside complex organizational systems.

Topics covered:

• What industrial-organizational psychology is
• Why meetings are almost always done wrong and what a genuinely good on ...