In this episode we get to hear from Ryo Lu who was one of the very first designers at Notion. This conversation is an inside look at the Notion design process, how they think about product, and a lot more:

- How Notion approached the user research process for AI

- Strategies for improving your systems thinking

- How design at Notion sources feedback on meaty problems

- How Notion thinks about their design system

- What Ryo is looking for in your portfolio

- How to operate outside the traditional “design” role

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