What does it take to become the greatest defender in NBA history and stay elite at 33?

In this episode of Deep Tissue Talks, 4x NBA Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert gets on the massage table to talk about the recovery systems, mindset work, and lifestyle choices that keep him at the top of the game — and his unprecedented chase for a record-breaking 5th DPOY trophy.

Rudy goes deeper than any interview you've seen. He breaks down the private performance ecosystem he's built over 13 years in the NBA: how he uses the hyperbaric chamber from Oxygen Health Systems, red light therapy, grounding, and why he made a decision that was particularly hard as a Frenchman. He also unpacks the somatic work that anchors his presence on defense — and explains why most of what he does never shows up in the highlight reel.

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