This special bonus episode of The BurgeCast breaks from the usual format and goes deeper than the blogs.

For the first time, Jeff Burgess sits down with longtime friend and former Ingram Micro executive Kelly Nagel for an unfiltered conversation about the relationships, risks, pressure, and pivotal moments behind a 45-year career in technology.

Long before smartphones, Zoom calls, and AI, business was built through trust, hustle, reputation, and human connection. Together, Jeff and Kelly revisit the early days of the computer industry, the chaos of rapid growth, and the lessons learned while helping build companies, teams, and careers from the ground up.

The conversation explores:

• The relationship-driven mindset behind a $100M company
• Why trust and accountability still beat shortcuts
• Mentorship, leader ...