Nice Girl Detox w/ Mo Holloman

Nice Girl Detox: ADHD Energy Budgeting, perimenopause, and why time management is not enough

This episode features Michelle Mo Holloman, founder of ADHD Energy Strategy, who brings together business leadership, coaching, and performance training to rethink productivity through the lens of energy. Instead of forcing time management on brains and bodies that work differently, she explains how ADHD founders and women navigating perimenopause can use energy budgeting to reduce burnout and make better decisions.We discuss how resentment, resistance, and people pleasing drain energy, why intuition matters more than external validation, and how simple policy changes can create sustainable scale in business and life.

Key topics

• In this episode, Mo shares how her early life, depression in her twenties, and years of self optimization led her to develop ADHD Energy Budgeting.
• We discuss the difference between managing time and managing energy, especially when focus, mood, and bandwidth change from day to day.
• Mo explains why many ADHD founders overcommit, override their needs, and rely on adrenaline and “good brain days” to get things done.
• We unpack how perimenopause and menopause can amplify ADHD symptoms, reduce tolerance for masking, and make old coping strategies stop working.
• Mo shares that resistance to accepting the current state of life is one of the biggest energy drains she sees.
• We discuss how shame, judgment, and labels like “not a viable womb anymore” can quietly cost women a lot of energy during hormone changes.
• Mo explains her before, during, and after care approach to energy, mood, and focus so people can prepare for demanding moments and recover afterward.

Timestamps

00:00 - Meet Michelle Mo Holloman and the case for ADHD energy strategy

01:27 - Why time management fails when energy is the real constraint

02:43 - Growing up loud, resistant, and misunderstood

04:07 - Depression, overcorrection, and becoming the “good girl”

06:01 - The shift from self punishment to energy budgeting

07:24 - Why ADHD founders gravitate to coaching and strategy09:19 - Why energy strategy applies even if you are not diagnosed with ADHD

11:32 - Perimenopause, menopause, and the collapse of masking

16:06 - Why women are gaslit about hormonal change and capacity

17:24 - Resistance as a major energy drain

18:53 - Acceptance, experimentation, and the cost of refusing reality

28:47 - The car and gas tank analogy for energy limits

32:39 - A client example of doing more by doing less

37:53 - Systems that support instead of white knuckling

38:36 - Resentment as a practical signal for where to start

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Book a chat with Mo: https://go.adhdenergybudgeting.com/

Website: https://www.moholloman.com

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