Jordan Gooch is a daughter, a sister, and a dog mom.

We met in the service industry around a decade and change ago back when I was a first-time new dad and she was feeling her way through the post-high-school/early-college years. We would -- on occasion -- cross paths behind the restaurant and swap stories about life and music over cigarettes, so I knew that once I got this project off the ground, she would be a good candidate for an episode.

It took a handful of tries to get Jordan in the room, but from jump street, her selection for what wound up being episode #19 was Circa Survive's On Letting Go.

Spiders and tornadoes kept her up most of the night before we recorded, but she rallied, showed up, and did a C- job of pretending like she wasn't going to fall asleep across the duration of our chat.

So, shout ...